• Registered: 2012-03-13

Topic: Non-existent label? Wrong name?

HI!

I was looking some edits when I found a comment about one label, Delerium Music Limited. The editor was saying that in his CD the label was Delerium Records, but all Porcupine Tree releases that in discogs were associated to that label, here were associated to this Delerium Music Limited.

I made a search on the web, but I was unable to find some reference to this Delerium Music Limited being even an alias of Delerium Records, and in the releases I checked, the cover showed Delerium Records too.

I'm here because this label has many releases associated with it and it seems weird that nobody changed its name. So, should we change it?

Thanks in advance!

  • From: Trois-Rivières, Canada
  • Registered: 2010-09-18

Re: Non-existent label? Wrong name?

I see both on this cover: http://rapidsharemp3.com/_Cache/mp3-dow … over/0.jpg
One must be © and the other ℗ but it's too tiny for me to read

Lotheric's Website

  • From: Singapore
  • Registered: 2007-02-13

Re: Non-existent label? Wrong name?

In such a case it's probably better to make the label "Delerium", and have aliases for both fuller version legal entity names. Unfortunately commonly misunderstood, but MB has an interest in tracking labels as their imprints, not as their legal entities or corporate structures.

voiceinsideyou's Website

  • Registered: 2012-03-13

Re: Non-existent label? Wrong name?

Mmm... It's not posible to use some relationship, so the editors can use the names as appear in the cover? (Is this possible if the names are aliases?)

Delerium alone also is used in some covers (as © & ℗): http://s.dsimg.com/image/R-2033433-1273075904.jpeg
Delerium Records (as © & ℗): http://s.dsimg.com/image/R-2046771-1273088792.jpeg
Delerium Records Limited and Delerium Music Limited (as in the link posted by Lotheric): http://images.coveralia.com/audio/p/Por … rasera.jpg

So, I think I don't really understand :/

  • From: Singapore
  • Registered: 2007-02-13

Re: Non-existent label? Wrong name?

Ask yourself this question - what is the difference between Delerium Records and Delerium Music from a released music perspective?

If there is no known difference - what is the point of tracking it? Labels do all sorts of ridiculous things with their legal entities to separate the profits/losses from distribution from publishing from production. This just is not relevant to a database such as MusicBrainz. We track music metadata, not legal/corporate ownership structures. You only have to look at the nightmare of the major labels in MB to see where this path goes.

In this case it looks like the "imprint" is "Delerium" - if we cannot discern any difference between the releases attributed to "Music Ltd" and "Records Ltd" then we shouldn't try and retain this information.

See http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Label for more details.

PS: You can't direct link to Discogs images.

voiceinsideyou's Website