• Registered: 2012-04-22

Topic: The same work in various opus (classical style)

In classical style (see http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Classical_Style_Guide) we should number works as:
(overall work name), (catalogue number): (part number). (part name).

How should we name a work which is included in severall different opus ?

For exemple, the song "Auprès de cette grotte sombre" composed by Claude Debussy, is included in
* "Trois chansons de France, L. 102"  (http://musicbrainz.org/work/4505bfa1-c8 … c05fc6deb6)
* "Le promenoir des deux amants, L. 118" (http://musicbrainz.org/work/dcacf21a-f2 … a93935c2e9)

The work is rigorously the same, as it is specified on http://www.uquebec.ca/musique/catal/debussy/debccat.htm, and as you can see when checking the scores at IMSLP:
* http://imslp.org/wiki/3_Chansons_de_Fra … _Claude%29
* http://imslp.org/wiki/Le_promenoir_des_ … _Claude%29

As specified in this latest link, the work appeared first in L. 102, but it is the same, so the work-work relationship "is a earliest version of" can't apply...
How should I deal with this ?
- Disregarding classical guide style and naming the work "Auprès de cette grotte sombre" (and the include it to L. 102 and L. 118) ? But then should I do this with all other compositions by Debussy, even if the problem do not apply to them ?
- Let it as it is and ignore that these two works are the same ?

Thanks in advance,
Gagea

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  • Registered: 2006-12-19

Re: The same work in various opus (classical style)

Shouldn’t we keep just obne work and link it to both parent  parent works for instance ?

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  • From: Tartu, EE
  • Registered: 2010-11-24

Re: The same work in various opus (classical style)

An option would be to rename the work as "Auprès de cette grotte sombre, L. 102/2, L. 118/1" or something like that and link it to both. Other option is to just have it twice, and select whatever it is credited as (that's what has been done with the aria and the aria da capo in the Goldberg Variations for example). Admittedly though there's no good way to link them together...

  • Registered: 2012-04-22

Re: The same work in various opus (classical style)

Thanks for answering, jesus2099 and reosarevok.

Ok, I prefer the "Auprès de cette grotte sombre, L. 102/2, L. 118/1"  option. I think it's important to show that's the same work. Hopefully a "is the same work" relationship will be created some day.

Gagea

  • From: Czech Republic
  • Registered: 2008-03-17

Re: The same work in various opus (classical style)

I would prefer avoiding creation of multiple entities for the same work.
IMHO it is better to have a single entity and use title aliases to show the different names of the entity.

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