• aax
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Topic: Newbie seeking advice

Hello everyone!
I've just added my first release http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/1c … 382aff61b6. It's been a bit of a rough road dealing with the interface but I got it in the end.

Could i ask someone to check it out and give me some feedback?

Also, I've got a couple of questions. The release in question is a 12 inch LP with recordings on both sides. I submitted it just like a 2 CD album and now it shows it as 2×12" Vinyl under Format. Tried searching the forum for vinyl but couldn't find any consensus for dealing with record sides, so what would be the correct way to tag them? If I mark it as a single vinyl the track info is lost.

Another question, what is the best way to input multiple artists per tracks? If I try to parse them, it shows them all as a single artist regardless of the separators between them (,;/), so I have to do them one by one for each track. Also, the default join phrase seems to be either & or , which then stays the same in the Artist field of ID3 2.3 tag when I try tagging with Picard. I've noticed in the guidelines for ID3 tag version 2.3.0 (http://www.id3.org/id3v2.3.0) that multiple artists in the TPE1 frame are supposed to be separated with a /. Now, I have some kind of dbpoweramp plugin that shows tag info in Windows Explorer and when the artists are separated with slashes in the id3 tag it shows them with a semicolon after each one, whereas if they use commas it shows them with commas, which leads me to believe that slashes are recognizable artist separators just like the id3 guidelines say. Any thoughts?

  • From: Tartu, EE
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Re: Newbie seeking advice

About separators: we use the separators that the releases use. I don't know if there's a plugin to turn them all into / though... sounds like it could be useful :) And no, sadly there's no way to change several tracks at once, unless you use an userscript: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/118491

About the vinyl: sadly, I have to say that a disc is a disc, regardless of sides http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Medium - but in one week we'll be getting the option to mark stuff as A1 - An and B1 - Bn inside a disc, to mark sides (release of that feature is on May 15th). I've tagged this one with "sides-as-discs" so I will remember to fix it then. For adding more vinyls though please add them as one disc per record, not per side (you can add the side division info to the annotation, or just wait one week to add them and add them directly with that info :D)

3 Reply by aax (edited by aax 2012-05-09 00:48:48)

  • aax
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Re: Newbie seeking advice

Thanks for the info and for the note on the release. Still, I don't quite understand what you mean by saying that you use the separators that the releases use.

By the way, that greasemonkey script is too brilliant for words.

  • From: Tartu, EE
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Re: Newbie seeking advice

I mean that if an album has "Artist1 + Artist2", we'd enter it on the site as "Artist1 + Artist2" (the & and , are only defaults because that's the most common way they're used). Or if it was "X feat. Y", we'd use feat. not &. As I said, it might make sense to make a plugin for the tagger that changes every join phrase to " / " if that's what players / id3 expect, for people who want it :)

For more userscripts, ranging from the very useful to the cosmetic, see http://userscripts.org/tags/musicbrainz :)

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Oh, I get it now. The reason for this is that I saw in some forum topic people asking why you put track and disc numbers that include the total number of tracks and discs and they were referred to that same ID3 manual.

  • From: Tartu, EE
  • Registered: 2010-11-24

Re: Newbie seeking advice

Yeah - that's also a Picard thing, and in the tagger it makes sense to follow ID3 conventions for stuff with ID3 tags. In the database itself and the website, not so much. Maybe you can open a topic on the Picard subforum asking for such a plugin, if you want one - if it's possible, I bet someone there knows how to do it :)

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Re: Newbie seeking advice

That's what I meant, when writing tags, not in the database. Thanks. I'll ask in the Tagger Support forum.