Topic: Bonus disc ?

Hi,

I added a double-cd release to Sinead O'Connor's "I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got" album (see RG : http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/97 … ac9f1227b) without realizing that the last single disc release was supposed to be this one, linked to the bonus disc.

However, after some searching, I couldn't find a single proof of the album being released separately. Is the "bonus disc AR" supposed to be used that way ?

And it seems that there is a lot of mess with this album (7 (!) links to bonus disc, mass merging without bothering with the fact that there are 2 isrcs for the same recording, ...)

So, if someone has an idea of what to do, I'd be grateful :)

Re: Bonus disc ?

Bonus disc was supposed to be set for stuff where the bonus disc was not released separately, but the main one was. So, we'd have disc 1 (standalone) with both release events, linked to a bonus disc with only the release events for the bonus. I am not too sure what to make of that RG though, I guess it either needs the disc 1 being added to them and turned into full 2xCD releases, or some bonus disc merging.

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Yeah, the bonus disc AR was deprecated when NGS was released in may last year. All "bonus discs" like this should be converted into 2-disc releases - but unfortunately this could not automatically be done by the system in the conversion, so there are lots of such release groups to tidy up.

Some have become completely screwed up with the ARs pointing everywhere because the system could not working out which bonus disc corresponded to which "release event" from the original pre-NGS release. This makes it quite hard to work out unfortunately.

The easiest way to fix them is to look at where the AR is pointing and try and find the correct "first disc" release based on catalog numbers, barcodes etc; then to either

A) If the first disc is available on its own, and there is no existing "disc 1" release for that bonus disc
1) edit the (bonus disc) release
2) remove (bonus disc) from the title
3) check release events/data/cat numbers. Sometimes a bonus disc has a separate cat # to the first disc, and so both cat#s could be included
4) on the tracklist tab, add a new dis
5) base this new disc on the existing tracklist from the release where the AR is pointing to
6) re-order the discs
7) check whether the bonus disc needs a disc title
8) enter edit release/add medium edit
9) enter another edit to remove the bonus disc AR

B) if there is an existing "disc 1" uniquely corresponding to the bonus disc
Merge the two releases together, appending the bonus disc to the first. You might need to clean up the cats/barcodes after merge as well.

You also might find it useful to try and use discogs links and such to confirm the first disc's tracklist.

Re: Bonus disc ?

Ok, thanks :)

Almost nothing to do then ^^

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It gets easier once you've done your first :-) And it's really valuable work; so kudos to you if you undertake to fix that release group :-)

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First batch is done.
Now I need to wait the 15 days to see more clearly what still needs to be changed. It's not always easy to find the right recording when two have the exact same name, the same duration and are only present in only one album (with the same title, of course ^^ )

Work in progress, then :D

Re: Bonus disc ?

Normally an album will feature the same recordings as any corresponding singles (unless the release notes otherwise, by way of names like "Album Version" or "New Take" and such).
I do see where you're coming from, though; a lot (probably the vast majority) of artists currently in MB have otherwise identical recordings scattered all over the place and it's a pain in the you-know-where to get them put back together.