1 (edited by Dreamdanc3r 2007-05-05 15:20:55)

Topic: How to add a japanese Remix with more than one Title in one Track?

I want to add a Remix Release for the japanese band "access", but i encountered a Problem: The Release features 9 remixed Songs, but there are 3 Songs in One Track. See the freedb entry on this one.

What i want to know: There are 9 Titles on this Release --

1. 第一楽章 覚醒~CHEMICAL SYNAPSE 化学的な伝達
2. 第一楽章 覚醒~CHAOTIC NERVE 混沌とした神経
3. 第一楽章 覚醒~COMING OUT 判明
4. 第二楽章 混乱~QUANTUM TRIP 量子的な体験
5. 第二楽章 混乱~SPECTRAL MEMORY 電磁的な記憶
6. 第二楽章 混乱~TOUCH OFF 引火
7. 第三楽章 解放~BINARY EMISSION 2進的な放射
8. 第三楽章 解放~FASCINATING ORBIT 精神の軌道
9. 第三楽章 解放~TURN OVER 蘇生

The Title Names contain some extra Informations.

Track 1-3: 第一楽章 覚醒 = First Mix
Track 4-6: 第二楽章 混乱 = Second Mix
Track 7-9: 第三楽章 解放 = Third Mix

The actual Title Names have been written down in Romaji and HAN,
so for example on track 1, 化学的な伝達 is the japanese Translation for "CHEMICAL SYNAPSE"

How do i name the 3 Tracks?

Thanks for Helping me out...


D.D.

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Re: How to add a japanese Remix with more than one Title in one Track?

Hmmmm..... o_ö

Most Track Names by access are written in english language, so i presume, the english Parts are the actual Title Names. The Japanese Part is just a translation of the english part, as you have mentioned before and there are - AFAIK - no lyrics here, so how about this:

Track 1: 第一楽章 覚醒~CHEMICAL SYNAPSE, CHAOTIC NERVE, COMING OUT
Track 2: 第二楽章 混乱~QUANTUM TRIP, SPECTRAL MEMORY, TOUCH OFF
Track 3: 第三楽章 解放~BINARY EMISSION, FASCINATING ORBIT, TURN OVER

Alternately you could leave everything in japanese language, but i don't know how to list Title Names there. That's a bit tricky, i'd say... ^^° Too bad, we cannot add more than one Title to a Track... o_ö

I also like the Tracklisting from freedb, although i dunno if any guidelines are applicable on this one:

FreeDB says:
Track 1: 第一楽章 覚醒 I)CHEMICAL SYNAPSE [化学的な伝達] II)CHAOTIC NERVE [混沌とした神経] III)COMMING OUT [判明]
Track 2: 第二楽章 混乱 I)QUANTUM TRIP [量子的な体験] II)SPECTRAL MEMORY [電磁的な記憶] III)TOUCH OFF [引火]
Track 3: 第三楽章 解放 I)BINARY EMISSION [2進的な放射] II)FASCINATING ORBIT [精神の軌道] III)TURN OVER [蘇生]

If this one doesnt hurt any style guidelines, it would be the most accurate listing, after all...

-- Michael

Re: How to add a japanese Remix with more than one Title in one Track?

as per http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/MedleyStyle, track 1 would be: "第一楽章 覚醒~CHEMICAL SYNAPSE 化学的な伝達 / 第一楽章 覚醒~CHAOTIC NERVE 混沌とした神経 / 第一楽章 覚醒~COMING OUT 判明"

the mix stuff probably should go in the release annotation since it's not listed on the tracklisting itself (but rather below it i guess?)

4 (edited by Michael-San 2008-07-25 16:11:56)

Re: How to add a japanese Remix with more than one Title in one Track?

Thats the Guideline i wasnt able to find. Thanks! But does it make sense to add the extra Information 3 Times? I just found another Style Guideline, wich might be useful for this: Hob about combining the http://musicbrainz.org/doc/SubTitleStyle and the http://musicbrainz.org/doc/MedleyStyle like this:

Option 1:

第一楽章 覚醒: CHEMICAL SYNAPSE 化学的な伝達 / CHAOTIC NERVE 混沌とした神経 / COMING OUT 判明
第二楽章 混乱: QUANTUM TRIP 量子的な体験 / SPECTRAL MEMORY 電磁的な記憶 / TOUCH OFF 引火
第三楽章 解放: BINARY EMISSION 2進的な放射 / FASCINATING ORBIT 精神の軌道 / TURN OVER 蘇生

Option 2:

覚醒: CHEMICAL SYNAPSE 化学的な伝達 / HAOTIC NERVE 混沌とした神経 / COMING OUT 判明
混乱: QUANTUM TRIP 量子的な体験 / SPECTRAL MEMORY 電磁的な記憶 / TOUCH OFF 引火
解放: BINARY EMISSION 2進的な放射 / FASCINATING ORBIT 精神の軌道 / TURN OVER 蘇生


Let me explain:

I looked after it and i think Dreamdanc3r made a mistake by when he was translating the extra information:

第一楽章 is the japanese writing for "Track 1" or "first movement".
第二楽章 is the japanese writing for "Track 2" or "second movement".
第三楽章 is the japanese writing for "Track 3" or "third movement.

But there is more Information available

Track 1 =  覚醒 = Awakening
Track 2 =  混乱 = Confusion
Track 3 =  解放 = Release

and that makes the writing befor the actual track something like a Mix Title. Or vice versa it makes the Parts to something like a sub title.

Edit: The correct name of course was 'CHAOTIC NERVE' not 'HAOTIC NERVE' hehe ^^°

Re: How to add a japanese Remix with more than one Title in one Track?

From that info it makes option 2 looks best.  Unless the cover actually uses the track info as a title like:
Track 1 - 第一楽章 覚醒: CHEMICAL SYNAPSE 化学的な伝達 / HAOTIC NERVE 混沌とした神経 / COMING OUT 判明

But that's rare (and possibly just bad formatting of info by the cover designer).

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Re: How to add a japanese Remix with more than one Title in one Track?

Hmh... Michael-San seems to be right. Oops. I also know, what was my mistake when i was translating this... Anyway - i think, his Option 2 should be the best Resolution for this. Thanks everyone!