Last.fm Plus Genre and extended tags plugin for Picard 0.15+ (Page 1 of 3)

If you've noticed in v0.13 that bulk sets of albums refresh and complete loading in a weird order, please re-download the plugin (or you can find/replace in __init__.py for "Priority=False", change it to "Priority=True".) There was a short period of time where the wrong version was uploaded. Apologies.

Hi,

Thanks for the great plugin.

I came across a problem with major and minor tags and the max tags written setting. If I have say the following settings:

Max Tags - Group = 1
Max Tags - Genre = 4

Tag List Grouping = pop, dance, trance
Tag Lists Genres = pop, dance, trance, etc

If my track is tagged with pop, dance and trance on last.fm, I will correctly get only one Group Tag, but I also only get 1 Genre tag, whereas I expected all three.

Cheers,
Menno

Hey, any Idea why i cant generate genre-tags?
I hadnt the custom settings after installations.. maybe thats why it doesnt work...
Maybe i have to deinstall the plugin completely? If so, where?

[Edit] Okay, it worked with defaults settings (have other experiences too..)
But the genre-tags are not the last.fm top tags.. dont know why...

I've had a few instances where during re-tagging multiple releases by a range of artists, only the first album by each artist would have the genre tags written to them and the rest are skipped. If I tag each artist separately then its fine. I can't see a reason for this.... any ideas?

I dragged a selection of folders with a total of approx 1500 files into Picard. These files have been recently scanned and saved, so all up to date, I'm now just adding genres using this plugin. All files were then saved again. If I then check the same folders in Mp3tag I see that only 70% are fully tagged. If I refresh the list in Picard the files without tags with show up as unsaved and I have to save them again.

If there are multiple albums by one artist being saved then I am always seeing only one or two of them saving accurately.

To be honest I don't know if it is because of Picard or the Plugin. The files are all freshly saved with the MusicBrainz information and I never noticed any occurrences of albums/files being skipped or having errors before using the plugin. So I've just deleted artist name and album titles from a bunch of files, put them through Picard, and again, some albums don't have the genre tags written to them but the missing info from MB is saved.

There are no errors recorded in the log.

Yeah if I run Picard again with just one artist, then I get all of the tags in all of the abums. Its pretty much happened with most artists in my collection.

To give you an example though... I just dragged my folder of 'V' artists into Picard, and these artists: VAST, Velvet Revolver, Volbeat, Veruca Salt, Visions of Atlantis, Van Halen and a few various artist albums all missed tagging some releases by them. No issues if I refresh Picard and save what is needed again or if I just drag one artist at a time.

Hello.  First off, I want to say thanks for all the effort you guys have put into this.  Even though I haven't gotten it to work for me yet, I can tell it's awesome.

Haven't found any other way to automatically tag mp3's with their respective genres yet.  My collection is looking pretty good, so hopefully I can figure this out.

I'm currently using Picard 0.15.1 on win7x64.  I have downloaded the last.fm plugin and followed the guide as far as I can tell.  I have the lastfmplus folder with the __init__.py and the ui_options_last.fm.py files.

I go to the plugin section and enable the lastfm plugin there then close out the program.  The guide says when I restart it, I should see an option for the last.fm plugin options.  Either I'm blind, or it's not listed anywhere.

What absolutely basic thing have I missed/screwed up? 

If you need anymore information, feel free to ask.

Thanks in advance!

voiceinsideyou, thanks.

I knew it was going to be something basic like that.  Not sure how I missed the arrow, but I think I was expecting it to be listed as a main option and not a suboption. Screw you brain.

Can't wait to try it out! (:

Great plug-in imho, very useful. However if I may suggest a feature that would dramastically improve the "poweness" of the plug-in :
Make the grouping/genre/country pattern follow a 'tree' structure. That is, create a list of keywords that are allowed 'genre' when under a specific 'grouping', and do that for every available 'grouping'.

For example, when I have a finnish folk groupe, I'd like it to be marked as [Grouping = Folk] and [Genre=Finnish Folk], but for other groups like 'The Rasmus', as it would be marker with [Grouping=Rock], the token [Genre=Finnish Folk] would not be an authorized genre (so we toggle to [Genre=Alternative Rock], which would fit).

Likewise, if I have a Eletronic Jazz group, I'd it to be marker as [Grouping=Electronic] and [Genre=Jazz] (if the Electronic tag is more preponderant than the Jazz tag of course).

I don't know if I'm clear enough, but I hope you'll see why i would be quite useful to have such a feature.

Yes; the problem is indeed constructing such a tree. It's contentious and the knowledge of genres required to actually layer everything like that is more than one person could possibly be expected to have, except as a full-time job. Moreso; real life genres are not a tree structure - they are probably like a big venn diagram. Some sub-genres are wholly owned by another (thrash metal into metal). Others are an overlap - breakcore with respect to drum & bass and techno, arguably - or "rap metal/rapcore" - does it belong to rock, metal or rap? Even your example for electronic jazz - who says Electronic should be the grouping for it, as opposed to jazz? Building a UI to allow users to maintain and tweak that would be a significant endeavour.

For this reason, I support the more egalitarian view taken by the plugin. The theory goes that when you add up and weight all the tagging users have done on last.fm; the most important higher-level genre should emerge (i.e. the grouping). Attempts to force too much structure on genres are probably doomed to failure (or commitment to a very large time investment) IMO. All power to anyone who writes something easy to use to try and make this work though!

I'm hoping to update this plugin to allow album tags to be used, as well as the artist and track tags. I'd like to add my options to the options GUI, but don't have the .ui file that the GUI is created from. Where is the best place to get my hands on this file?