• Registered: 2012-08-16

Topic: Artist tagging without featurings?

I've searched the forum / wiki for an answer to this, without much luck.
I have many albums that have many featurings, for example : http://musicbrainz.org/release/2553e4c3 … tport=8000
Picard tags them correctly, according to the style standard. This tagging, however, causes some issues for me.
Every library type application im using uses the "Artist" tag for artist grouping and sorting, thus resulting in having many entries of the same main artist with different featurings.
Take the linked release for example, i'm having 11 entries for "Peeping Tom" with different featurings.
I'm using XBMC (on linux), Winamp (on windows) and PowerAmp (on Android), they all share the same artist grouping behavior.


This leads to my question, is there a way to tell Picard to tag my files with the "Album Artist" as "Artist" ?

  • Registered: 2008-04-25

Re: Artist tagging without featurings?

You could use copy in your scripts, but I think using the Move Feat. Artists to Titles plugin would solve your problem too.

mfmeulenbelt's Website

  • Registered: 2012-08-16

Re: Artist tagging without featurings?

mfmeulenbelt wrote:

You could use copy in your scripts, but I think using the Move Feat. Artists to Titles plugin would solve your problem too.

Oh nice! Move Feat. Artists to Titles seems to be exactly what i'd need to keep all the information, yet allow my library based software to function the way i want em!

Thanks alot :)

  • Registered: 2011-06-06

Re: Artist tagging without featurings?

The best way imo to 'fix' this is to just display things by 'Album Artist' (:
Makes things very tidy as whole as well (eg various artist release 'artists' don't clutter your music list and some other nice things)

No idea if all those players have that functionality though?

  • From: Singapore
  • Registered: 2007-02-13

Re: Artist tagging without featurings?

Even album artists have featurings in them sometimes; e.g for singles. In any case, that doesn't really fix it when you use last.fm or something like that and want to submit artists of VA tracks for example... :)

voiceinsideyou's Website

  • Registered: 2011-06-06

Re: Artist tagging without featurings?

It shouldn't influence how last.m scrobbles, just how it displays/ orders the albums for navigation.

  • From: Singapore
  • Registered: 2007-02-13

Re: Artist tagging without featurings?

If you don't move the featured artists to the titles in the tags it scrobbles tracks with artists like "A feat. B" where there is not a single MBID to scrobble with. These artists aren't real artists, and most people don't want to see them in last.fm data. I don't see how doing anything with album artist will stop that.

voiceinsideyou's Website

  • Registered: 2011-06-06

Re: Artist tagging without featurings?

Right on, I/we misunderstood each other.
However, if his only goal is to avoid the stated issue ("i'm having 11 entries for "Peeping Tom" with different featurings") as easily as possible, it's probably fastest to try and display them via album artist.
Re-tagging everything works too, of course..

  • From: Singapore
  • Registered: 2007-02-13

Re: Artist tagging without featurings?

I see, fair enough :)

voiceinsideyou's Website

10 Reply by chuckmoore (edited by chuckmoore 2012-09-05 17:56:16)

  • Registered: 2011-08-08

Re: Artist tagging without featurings?

nlz242 wrote:

I've searched the forum / wiki for an answer to this, without much luck.
I have many albums that have many featurings, for example : http://musicbrainz.org/release/2553e4c3 … tport=8000
Picard tags them correctly, according to the style standard. This tagging, however, causes some issues for me.
Every library type application im using uses the "Artist" tag for artist grouping and sorting, thus resulting in having many entries of the same main artist with different featurings.
Take the linked release for example, i'm having 11 entries for "Peeping Tom" with different featurings.
I'm using XBMC (on linux), Winamp (on windows) and PowerAmp (on Android), they all share the same artist grouping behavior.


This leads to my question, is there a way to tell Picard to tag my files with the "Album Artist" as "Artist" ?

Try:
Ulrich Decker Software Entwicklung
www.udse.de/

When working with multi-Artist, AudioExpert offers the possibility to use the separators you suggested within the "manage more artists" dialog (right-mouse key or use the menu "Edit > Manage artists")

the ID3-Specification defines the separator between multiple artists to be a "/", so other applications can detect that you mean two different artists. If you named the artist "XYZ feat. ABC", then no application will detect that XYZ and ABC are different artists, but will assume that there is one artist named "XYZ feat. ABC" (or what would be even worse that "feat." is also an artist).

Using AudioExpert, would be a better solution than using the Move Feat. Artists to Titles plugin.